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PostSubject: forgiveness   Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:11 pm

What acts can’t you forgive? And how do you forgive ?
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:29 pm

cheating and lying.
To forgive someone means to let go of any resentment towards the person.You can forgive a person and still be wounded by him/her.you don't have to forgive a person immediatly just until you are ready.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:35 pm

I think you can forgive anything, but just because you've forgivven someone, doesn't mean that you'll forget what they did.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:31 pm

I kinda agree with both, a7la daloo3a and hanoona.

Personally, I won't forgive someone who hurts my beloved ones or someone who cheats.

Other times, I would forgive but that doesn't mean I forgot.

P.S. Hanoona, Welcome aboard. greeting
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:56 pm

When u forgive someone who has done somthing real bad to u, it helps u become a stronger person,and u'll be more conscious in the future
as they say... wut doesnt kill u, only makes u stronger Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:33 am

great responses everyone .

you are right - hanoona - because it is the hardest to forgive those who hurt you the most ( since you care about the most ) it does make a stronger person - it is easier said then done though - it takes time

I ve was one of those that found it hard to forgive - i just didnt want to bother - so I take the easy way out and let go of those people - until one day , I found myself the one needing that forgiveness

karma I guess
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:04 pm

hanoona wrote:
When u forgive someone who has done somthing real bad to u, it helps u become a stronger person,and u'll be more conscious in the future
as they say... wut doesnt kill u, only makes u stronger Very Happy

True, but still, there are unforgivable things.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:53 pm

Devil_Unleashed wrote:
hanoona wrote:
When u forgive someone who has done somthing real bad to u, it helps u become a stronger person,and u'll be more conscious in the future
as they say... wut doesnt kill u, only makes u stronger Very Happy

True, but still, there are unforgivable things.


everything is forgivable it just takes time.
anybody can hold a grudge,forgiving takes courage, love and understanding.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:55 am

Devil_Unleashed wrote:
hanoona wrote:
When u forgive someone who has done somthing real bad to u, it helps u become a stronger person,and u'll be more conscious in the future
as they say... wut doesnt kill u, only makes u stronger Very Happy

True, but still, there are unforgivable things.

I agree with both of you. :)

Forgiving someone will definitely make you stronger. But NOT forgiving someone (if you know that person is untrustable and might do something bad to you again) will also make you stronger for not getting fooled twice.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:36 pm

But forgiving someone doesnt necessarily mean you trust them ....So how could you get fooled again?
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:51 pm

hanoona wrote:
But forgiving someone doesnt necessarily mean you trust them ....So how could you get fooled again?

You just have to go with:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:29 am

hanoona wrote:
But forgiving someone doesnt necessarily mean you trust them ....So how could you get fooled again?


Why forgive someone you can't trust? In my book: Forgiving someone + Not trusting them is same as Not forgiving them. Othewise what's the point of being with someone you can't trust? It'll be a lot of drama and waste of time.
If you want to forgive and not trust, then you should never be with that person again. Remember the saying "Once a cheater is always a cheater".

It all depends on the crime of other person, of course, and depend on how much you're at fault. I am with you on forgiving because everybody deserve a second chance, and I am so for second chances because we're all humans and we all make mistakes, but some mistakes are unforgivable low acts.

And believe me, those who believe they could not get fooled again, do get fooled.


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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:52 pm

That is not always tru bravados...... If someone did somthing bad to me, trust is not going to be the only issue I'm dealin with. I 'll probably feel hatred toward that person and want to get revenge. But if I forgive that person, than it means that my heart is cleansed from the hatred and bad feelings towards him or her.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:00 pm

hanoona wrote:
That is not always tru bravados...... If someone did somthing bad to me, trust is not going to be the only issue I'm dealin with. I 'll probably feel hatred toward that person and want to get revenge. But if I forgive that person, than it means that my heart is cleansed from the hatred and bad feelings towards him or her.

Even if your heart is cleansed, usually women who forgive, will not forget.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:31 pm

but that is not the point....forgivness does not imply trust, or forgetting
If someone killed my dad for example and i forgave him/her....i would let
them go free, without revenge or jailtime or anything, but i still could never forget what he/she did
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:20 pm

hanoona wrote:
but that is not the point....forgivness does not imply trust, or forgetting
If someone killed my dad for example and i forgave him/her....i would let
them go free, without revenge or jailtime or anything, but i still could never forget what he/she did


That's what I've been saying! You would forgive them and let them go free, but never forgive them and let them back in your life.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:13 am

Is there a way to forget about what they've done after you forgave them?
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:01 pm

good too see you here mg
unless you lose your memory , there is no way
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:26 pm

MethayMrate wrote:
Is there a way to forget about what they've done after you forgave them?

It's imbossible!
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:16 am

if you love a person enough, you woud refuse to think about it. so time wil pass by and it will be a faint memory, because better memories will replace the ones you don't think about. you probably won't remember it until something trigers it. idk if im making sense lol. it's hard to put into words.if you love somebody enough you will let you'r wounds heal.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:36 pm

Little_Miss_Perfect wrote:
good too see you here mg
unless you lose your memory , there is no way


Good to see you too. It would be nice to forget about bad stuff though. To bad they haven't invented something for that yet.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:09 pm

The Bravados wrote:
Devil_Unleashed wrote:
hanoona wrote:
When u forgive someone who has done somthing real bad to u, it helps u become a stronger person,and u'll be more conscious in the future
as they say... wut doesnt kill u, only makes u stronger Very Happy

True, but still, there are unforgivable things.

I agree with both of you. :)

Forgiving someone will definitely make you stronger. But NOT forgiving someone (if you know that person is untrustable and might do something bad to you again) will also make you stronger for not getting fooled twice.

You stole the words right out of my mouth!

Personally i won't forgive cheating.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:10 pm

And if a person hits me or physically abuses me. No forgiveness what so ever!
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:27 am

Oucho! wrote:
And if a person hits me or physically abuses me. No forgiveness what so ever!


Exactly. If there were more women like you, there would've been a lot less abusive relationships and less stupid men and women in this world.
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:32 pm

ana_a7la_daloo3a wrote:
Devil_Unleashed wrote:
hanoona wrote:
When u forgive someone who has done somthing real bad to u, it helps u become a stronger person,and u'll be more conscious in the future
as they say... wut doesnt kill u, only makes u stronger Very Happy

True, but still, there are unforgivable things.


everything is forgivable it just takes time.
anybody can hold a grudge,forgiving takes courage, love and understanding.


I agree but I also feel that it takes courage to forgive someone but that "foregiveness is also earned"... you dont just give it away freely... just like trust ..
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PostSubject: Re: forgiveness   Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:35 pm

Someone wise once said

"إذا كان الحب موجود.. فهناك دائما السماح
لأن الحب قوه صامده... تتحدى كل الرياح"

If there is love.. there is always forgiveness
because love is stronger than anything and can stand up to face anything.

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